"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate
its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and
will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to
seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or
driving underground all heretics."
--Robert A. Heinlein, postscript to Revolt in 2100
Scientology and Saddam Hussein
Both Scientology and Saddam Hussein won't allow critical books to be in public libraries
Fiesty posted:
This is from a $cientology site.
A book "Cult Around the Corner" apparently came out in May 2002. They still
try to say their not $cientology, especially with the use of the word "psychs"
and the need to attack the original CAN :-0
http://www.clubtheta.com
Scientologist Nancy O'Meara, treasurer of the new Cult Awareness Network, and Club Theta
member, answers questions about her new book and its role in bringing about
an atmosphere of religious tolerance in the world.
Ms. Ida Camburn replied:
Thanks for this post Feisty; It does not surprise me that O'Meara would want
to remove the books from the library that tell the truth about destructive
cults. I remember when CAN was bought by a Scientologist and then the former
directors phone number was purchased following her move from S. Calif. The
voice used to answer the phone closely resembled her voice. When those that
did not know CAN had been taken over by the cult, would call for help they were
not told another faction was now in charge. I was told by one who called that
her message for help was to no avail . Her message was forwarded to the head of
the cult where her daughter was involved.
Phd Margaret Singer and Phd J. West did wonderful contributions to educate
and to help those who had lost loved ones to various destructive groups as the
many who asked for help after leaving.Dr. John Clark presented wonderful work
on manipulation and control by closed systems. Cong. Leo Ryan entered one of
his first papers in the Record.
As for removing the books from the libraries, this has been taking place for
years. In the seventies I checked out a book from a library in Santa Clara,
"The Scandal of Scientology" by Paulette Cooper. I read it and returned it to
the library. When I returned to check out another, the librarian informed me
that a slip from the inter- library where they had retrieved the book for me ,
advised her that the book had been stolen. Also magazines were removed from
libraries around the country if they contained articles telling the truth about
Scientology .
In the future ,efforts must be made to inform our librarians in our own
communities to be on the look out for more thefts or any other clandestine
action to remove worthwhile books. If you find that you are to busy to make a
call personally, letters would be great as would reach all workers including
the volunteers.
Ida J. Camburn
Somebody some day will say "this is illegal" , by then be sure the orgs say
what is legal or not."
L.Ron Hubarrd HCOPL Jan.4, l966
Arnie Lerma added:
Yes, I was asked to take critical books from public libraries but declined .. back in 1969...
I did get a call from a lady who said that she was asked to by Scientology and did steal critical books from the US LIbrary of Congress... she did not leave her name... but did tell me the story, and told me which current scientology bigshot she used to be the girlfriend of...and did mention that when she knew him he was not so evil as he is now.
Arnie Lerma
Saddamn Hussein uses the Hubbard's maxim - "If you want to control people you must lie to them"
Feisty posted:
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write
that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can
control anybody is to lie to them. When you find an individual is lying
to you, you know that the individual is trying to control you.
[...]
He's got to tell you lies in order to continue control, because the
second you start telling anybody close to the truth, you start
releasing him and he gets tougher and tougher to control. So, you cant
control somebody without telling them a bunch of lies. You will find
that very often Command has this as its greatest weakness. It will try
to control instead of leading. The next thing you know, it is lying to
the [illegible]. Lie, lie, lie, and it gets worse and worse, and all
of a sudden the thing blows up. Well, religion has done this.
_Organised religion tries to control, so therefore must be lying._
After a while it figures out (even itself) that it is lying, and then it starts
down tone scale further and further, and all of a sudden people get down
along this spring-like bottom (heresy) and say, "Are we going into apathy
and die, or are we going to revolt?" and they revolt, because you can only
lie to people so long. Unfortunately there is always a new cycle of
lying.
-- L. Ron Hubbard, dead founder of the thriving cult of greed and power
Technique 88
Those Pictures and Statues of Saddam Hussein everywhere in Iraq are like those pictures and statues of L Ron Hubbard everywhere in Scientology
Both of these scumbags used totalitarian techniques to build empires of lies....
Both are obsessed with loyalty and with their enemies..
Both seek to "destroy utterly" those who might oppose them.
Both tried to invoke religiosity in order for their tyranny to survive...
Scientology hides its totalitarian regime behind religiosity to protect the secret of their e-meter, to keep the scam going, and the money flowing to pay for more thugs ( lawyers ) while calling its "critics anti-religious bigots"
Saddamn hides his totalitarian regime behind calls for a Fatwha holy war, calling his critics enemies of Muslims.Both have thier pictures and statues everywhere in their respective domains to appear as the one true "source" of all....
In Scientology everything that happens to you that is good is because of Hubbard. In Iraq all good is because of Saddamn Hussein, especially the fact that you are still alive.
Each time I see a picture or statute of Saddam Hussein, while a true believer stands around 'blinking'... come down off a wall or get pulled over it reminds me of the judgement day for Scientology....which is coming
Both Scientology and Saddam Hussein are armed and dangerous
"My father (L. Ron Hubbard) asked me to steal a Nuclear Bomb (said his son, Ron DeWolfe)"
Reminds me of Saddam Hussein...
http://www.lermanet2.com/82cwcommission/2-041-060.htm
MR. DeWOLFE: I think they would I really have no way of predicting, but I think that there's a couple
of quotes that my father used to say all the time that
really scares me to death. He at one time was also
talking about really taking on the world. And I remember
in 1958 an example which scared me to death and started
myself thinking -- he wanted me to devise a plan to
try to steal an H-bomb.
MR. LECHER: Your father wanted you to steal an H- bomb?
2-43 ( Page number 43 of day 2 of the 1982 Clearwater Commission Hearings – testimony under penalty of perjury)
MR. DeWOLFE: Huh?
MR. LECHER: Your father wanted you to steal an H- bomb?
MR. DeWOLFE: Yeah. He wanted me to
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Reminds me of Saddam Hussein...
More from Ron DeWolfe denouncing his father as a fraud:
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/newsherald-DeWolfe07-82.htm
Scientology is armed and dangerous: see bottom of
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologyscandals/index.html
America is far from perfect
We need to fix a lot of things here in the USA....
Hopefully we will, as a nation, learn from this as well...
to fix some of our own glass-house-ness.
In Saddam's Iraq and in America by Scientology, DISSENT is not tolerated,
there can be no demonstration of dissatisfied scientologists...or unhappy Iraqis.... Scientology with hang them with "expulsion" from the promise of super duper OT powers someday or endless frivolous litigation or they get GAGGED by court orders - which is the United State's equivalent of Saddam's far simpler though less socially acceptable solution - physically rip out their tongues. In Saddam's Iraq there is no critical media about the regime, in America, there has been far, far, less than there should be because of the induced prior restraint
of the media by the cost and hassle of doing a story about scientology.
I protested the Vietnam War, and was gassed on the steps of the Pentagon. Ho Chi Minh was fighting a war for indepedence, at the end of WWII - he drove through the streets of Saigon with American Flags on the sides of the jeep.
But then the allies decided to give South Vietnam back to the FRENCH....and
He was heartbroken..... and turned to the only people willing to help him, the Chinese Communists..
The French and Germans have learned lessons that America still needs to.
But Saddamn Hussein is no Ho Chi Min.... He is a scumbag like Hubbard's Scientology...
Having embarked on this risky endeavor, I have no choice but to support my government.
You see you cannot protest Saddamns regime in Iraq. You will be tortured by his thugs....
You can protest George Bush's actions in America...
You cannot protest Scientology's abuses either, without being tortured by Scientology's thugs (their lawyers - Rosen, Moxon, Liberman et all )
Scientology is like a 19th century seedy carnival side show, whenever someone in the audience would yell out how the trick was done, he would be dragged outside by a couple of toughs stationed there for this purpose, and beaten up. Scientology’s demeanor is identical to this, only in the ‘civil’ 20th century they use lawyers, then the entire sordid affair is cloaked in bogus religiosity.
Related Links:
The Quiet Hidden Terrorism ( appeal from an ex-scientologist )
The Scientology Matrix ( what a scientologist faces leaving Scientology )
Conspiracy for Silence ( quest for gag agreements )
Declaration of ex-Scientology Attorney Joe Yanny
Scientology is Armed and Dangerous - see bottom of Scientology Scandals Page
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