Mark Ebner reports:

In my mailbox this morning:

Subject: Re: [discaco] The saga of El Ron Hitler/NostraDumAss

Hey, guys! You can forward this to everyone. It's time that people know
what's up. You can also respond and post to the two websites.

I posted this on a few websites.
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But here is the text:

I was harassed by the Sci_fi religion a couple of years ago for having a
band named El Ron Hitler (which was merely a surrealist thought). We
recorded some tracks in late 1999/early 2000 and put them up on and
then started playing some live shows around town at parties and clubs. I
started receiving strange calls from a woman who claimed that I was the
"missing ingredient" for an all boy band "like N'Sync." Since I "was
Mexican" (she assumed) I would be perfect. And she was wondering "Are you in
El Ron Hitler?" Right away, I knew that something was not quite right. Since
I'm Spanish, not Mexican, I knew that they were trying to gather information
on me--a clever tactic used by the Church Of Scientology.

One morning I was awakened by call from the "attorney" for the Church Of
Scientology (who sounded alot like the person that had "offered" me to join
the all boy band) telling me to stop using the name El Ron Hitler and that
they were threatening to sue me for taking their founder, L. Ron Hubbard's
name in vain. I couldn't believe this. I told her to leave me alone and hung
up the phone. Shortly thereafter, I found a letter sitting underneath my
door at my apartment. I thought it was strange since you need a set of
special keys to get up to my apartment. I opened the letter and it was a
"cease and desist" letter from the attorney. The letter stated that El Ron
Hitler's music will cause their the Scientology "parishoners" to be attacked
both verbally and physically by our fans. And the letter also stated that
the name of the band is a direct insult towards their founder--L. Ron
Hubbard. I couldn't believe this once again! I had been a fan of X-Files and
thought that something like this could never happen to me.

In the "cease and desist" letter was a business card left by the "private
detective" that was hired by the Church Of Scientology's lawyers. He had
scrawled "Call me Immediately" on a post-it note like a forceful teacher
would write on a bad test score and stuck it on the back of his business
card. I decided to do some more detective work of my own and found lots of
dirt on this so-called "detective." He was kicked off the LAPD back in 1981
by Chief Daryl Gates for running a house of prostitution and for calling up
gang members before they were going to get busted by a drug squad. Lovely.
He had warrants out for his arrest in counties of both Florida and Oklahoma
for impersonating a police officer and carrying a loaded weapon without a
license. Here is more info:

I even received some fan e-mail from this guy that asked when El Ron Hitler
was going to play again--"You're Hot Hot Hot!" the e-mail said. We traced it
back to Ingram thanks to some hacker work from a band member. I started
getting more voice mail messages the next day and immediately called an
attorney that a fellow friend and local club booker had pointed me
towards--Carol Sobel (ex-ACLU). I faxed her the letter that the COS's
lawyers had sent me and e-mailed her everything that I had on the "private
detective." She was quite impressed with my own detective work. I also
forwarded the information to the LAPD and they called me (a few weeks
afterwards) and told me that they had gone to give Ingram a nice little
visit and they assured me that he would never bother me again. Lovely. I
decided to use the voice mails that Mr Ingram had left into a song and I
did. The result is "Careful With That Badge, Eugene" (a little ode to Pink
Floyd, I guess..).

The calls stopped coming, but the lawsuit was still pending. My attorney was
telling me that the COS had sent some people to her office to "make sure
that she recieved the faxes" that they were sending. These people are
relentless! I then decided to change the name from El Ron Hitler to
NostraDumAss. I decided to do this since I didn't want either my bandmembers
or our families harassed by them. And, of course, I haven't been harassed
since. I had no secret messages in our songs and the name El Ron Hitler was,
like I said, a surrealist thought. Period.

The Church Of Scientology is in trouble, though. Check this out: This is one of the individuals that was
responsible for putting together Earthlink. Ever heard of that company?

Anyone have thoughts on what happened to me? Has this happened to anyone

Whether Beck is a Scientologist or not, I don't know. But I've known the
dude since the early 1990's and I sincerely doubt that he would involve
himself in an organization that was trying to take my freedom of speech


NostraDumAss (formerly El Ron Hitler)