rom: kwyatt@fix.net (Keith)
Subject: Re: Warning - Scientology attacking remailers again!
Date: 1996/04/15
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>> Cory wants us to believe that the Co$ has no choice in this matter. They do.
What is worse the COS or the people that hate them?
Nobody is forcing their religion down your throat!
You are the people so wrapped up in this religion for some strange reason.
Hey if you don't want hassles from COS then don't publish copyrighted
material! End of story. If you do post it then post it non-anonymously
and stop putting anonymous remailers in the middle. At least stand up
for your beliefs and stop hiding behind the innocent operators of anonymous
remailers. Your actions are causing more hardship for anonymous remailers
then there should be.
You are the people causing the anonymous remailers to shut down by your stupid
actions. These groups, sysadmins and individuals provide the internet with a
valuable
service for no charge and your anti-religion fervor is causing nothing but
problems for these poor guys.
What really pisses me off is EFF is getting in the middle for no reason.
If you want to publish copyrighted material then post it using your own account
so
they can sue you instead of involving every tom, dick and Harry that happens to
be involved in your childish behavior.
Maybe some of you anti-religion activist should stop worrying about a church
and feed the hungry instead or help unwed mothers.
Oh yea please don't send me all the stupid documents around this case and
COS. I already read them.
I'm not impressed with this anti-religion fervor. If you want to look up the
word cult
I think you anti-COS activist fit the description just fine.
And no I'm not a member of COS, I'm Mennonite.
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From: "Fluffygirl" <amafluffygirl@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Robert Clark: Homeless Beggar of ARS!
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 07:41:37 -0700
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<gun_bunny_SPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Fluffygirl wrote:
>
> >Well, let's see. The church, it appears, was instrumental in his losing
his
> >job. Last I checked, most of us use our salary to pay our rent or
mortgage.
> >I imagine Rob was no exception.
>
> We wrote articles while at his job,
_We_ wrote articles? Bit of a freudian slip there?
>see the Clark interview post, that put
> his employer in a place of being liable for any and all actions that he
> committed at his place of employment in relation to articles he posted
> on the internet. If you were Clark's boss what would you do?
I think if someone writes something that after the fact it's difficult if
not impossible in many cases to know if it was written on company time and
also if a person writes something under his or her own name not purporting
that it came from a company or other entity that the person alone is
responsible.
If I were Clark's boss I'd have not wanted to go into it with you, probably.
>
> >
> >Then, gee, CofS complains that Rob asked for assistance in the post which
> >you quote here.
>
> I'm not a Scientologist and I only speak for myself.
Now, wait a minute Keith. I know for a fact you are affiliated with CofS,
that you work for them and that you are allied with the Toronto
Scientologists such as Peter Ramsay and Dan Bryenton. I know this because
one of them told me in an email last year that you were allied with them.
So you may not be taking courses and getting auditing but you do post on
behalf of CofS and do, apparently, other things that are on behalf of CofS.
You may not be a Scn'ist by Creed but you have thrown your lot in with them
and you are looking out for them and they do have a claim on you and that
means you have one on them.
>These are the
> words of Robert Clark and posting them is done to show that Robert
> Clark is a deceitful person that twists facts to fit his agenda.
There isn't a person alive on this planet who doesn't put his or her words
in a certain light to fit his or her agenda. That includes ptsc, me, and it
certainly includes your good self.
Welcome to humanity. We say what we think and we look around for things to
bolster our arguments.
I disagree with ptsc on lots o' things but still I'm for freedom of speech.
Let the man talk and write and leave him alone.
Even if he was everything you say, even if the other critics were everything
you say, - this slamming of them, these very vengeful tactics only make CofS
look like a bully and since you work for them...
Even if CofS were perfect and good and was always unjustly maligned,
vengefulness against its detractors in a society valuing free speech and
other civil rights is a foot bullet for CofS.
Better to play the noble martyr card. CofS'd get more mileage out of it.
> It was deceitful to claim that he was the victim of a Scientology plot
> by stating that Scientology appended a statement to his posts encouraging
> terrorist acts in the United States. Then he used this deceit to beg for
> money on the internet.
No, he used the fact that CofS was instrumental in getting him ousted from
his job to solicit money on the internet which he did in a typically
forthright fashion.
So what.
C
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From: "Rev. Norle Enturbulata" <earthlightnospam@nohotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Robert Clark: Homeless Beggar of ARS!
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:17:53 +0100
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"Jack Craver" <craverj@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Fluffygirl" <amafluffygirl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3bbdaa89@news2.lightlink.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > <gun_bunny_SPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:trppodqegdoo08@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
>
> < snip >
>
> > > I'm not a Scientologist and I only speak for myself.
> >
> > Now, wait a minute Keith. I know for a fact you are affiliated
> with CofS,
> > that you work for them and that you are allied with the Toronto
> > Scientologists such as Peter Ramsay and Dan Bryenton. I know
> this because
> > one of them told me in an email last year that you were allied
> with them.
> >
> > So you may not be taking courses and getting auditing but you
> do post on
> > behalf of CofS and do, apparently, other things that are on
> behalf of CofS.
> > You may not be a Scn'ist by Creed but you have thrown your lot
> in with them
> > and you are looking out for them and they do have a claim on
> you and that
> > means you have one on them.
> >
>
> fascinating....can you say in what way they were "allied"?
>
> Keith, I've been reading your stuff for years and you've always
> vehemently denied being connected in any way to scn. Do you still
> stand by your denials?
Weak attempt at mirroring-projection. Flunk! Start again!