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From: ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT alias DOT net>
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Subject: Re: Armstrong Contrary Facts #6
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:11:18 -0400
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:17:14 +0200, File_Clerk@anon.lcs.mit.edu wrote:
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>A. THE STATED "FACT":
>"I never clamored to the...press that Hubbard is dead, your assertion
>that I did so is a lie."
> Gerry Armstrong
> 16 August 1999
> Message-ID: <37b84d4c.416472712@news.dowco.com>
Why did you edit this so as to change its meaning? This is what Gerry
*actually* said.
"Since I never clamored to the courts and press that Hubbard is dead,
your assertion that I did so is a lie. (98) What evidence do you have
that I ever clamored to the courts and press that Hubbard is dead?
(99) Or is your assertion that I clamored to the courts and press
that Hubbard is dead a lie?"
ptsc
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From: Warrior <warrior@entheta.net>
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Subject: Re: Armstrong Contrary Facts #6
Date: 27 Oct 2001 10:41:02 -0700
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>ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT alias DOT net> wrote:
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>>Why did you edit this so as to change its meaning?
In article <aaa8e43719cda6c53281bd594be10afd@disastry.dhs.org>,
File_Clerk@anon.lcs.mit.edu says...
>
>I didn't edit it to change its meaning.
Yes, you did.
<snip>
>The facts stand.
Yes, and the facts are that you are engaging in deception by means
of editing and distortion of the truth.
But that is nothing new for the anonymous coward, "CL".
Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
http://warrior.offlines.org
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From: ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT alias DOT net>
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Subject: Re: Armstrong Contrary Facts #6
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:09:17 -0400
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:02:45 +0200, File_Clerk@anon.lcs.mit.edu wrote:
>So CL's statement--as he made it--is fully supported by the record.
So why didn't you quote that, instead?
>It was Armstrong's--not my--twisting of the language that misrepresented
>CL as having asserted that Armstrong *alone* made such claims to *both*
>the courts and the press. That isn't what CL said. So why aren't you
>challenging Armstrong why *he* misrepresented what CL said?
So your response to Armstrong's "twisting of the language" was to twist
Armstrong's statement back to what you wish it said? I guess two wrongs make a
right!
>Armstrong unquestionably made such claims to the press at the very time
>when he well knew that DeWolf was making the same claim in the courts.
>Period. And he claimed he didn't. Period. His unjustified addition of
>"the courts" in denying he had made such claims is a typically perverse
>"(c) Gerry Armstrong" dodge.
How about editing other people's statements so they say what you wish they said
instead of what they actually said?
>Instead of calling him on his calculating dishonesty, you fell for it,
>betraying your own pro-Armstrong prejudice.
>The facts stand.
The facts stand, but they weren't what you said they were.
You misrepresented them in a perverse and willful fashion.
ptsc