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How to talk to a Scientologist
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Tips for breaking the trance of a Scientologist The following from email - and posted at the suggestion of the author: If the Study Tech worked, how is it possible that long time auditors who studied applying the Tech would need cramming on a continuous basis? If they actually did "clear all their misunderstood words" and did all the patter drills, were double checked out etc, , why then did the tech did not work? The cramming action is the biggest proof that the Study Tech does not work, because if it did work as it is being promoted, nobody would need cramming... If the tech worked... as it is promoted as a "working technology", then no member would lose his business or get fired from work... I know several active public members who have lost their business, were fired, layoff, etc... Were they PTS or it was the economy? You can not blame recession, because it is always the persons fault, but it really happens all the time. If the tech worked... you would not see strange aberrations happening all of the time amongst members of Scientolotgy. If the tech worked... the divorce rate among the members of the group would be low, not higher than in any other group in the world If the scientologist private schools worked... you would not see children dropping out of school, rejecting the idea of study to advance in life, or being far and further behind in academics than the children in the "wog" Public School System... If the Teachers (Supervisors) are so good in these schools, why can any person off the street who has no formal education be hired? How can someone teach or supervise a child in a subject when he himself does not know it? How can a Supervisor teach Algebra to a child, if he himself does not know it? When a member is sick why is it blamed on the individual? Have they never heard anything about Genetics, or the tendency of illnesses that run in the family? cwood suggested this brilliant idea. Make a direct statement of fact about scientology. whatever facet of it that outrages you that particular day. Ask the borg member " Do you agree?' He will say No, its all lies... You say: Hubbard said the only reason a person disagrees with a subject is due to a misunderstood word. What word did you not understand? this is not a rote patter as long as this gist is what gets across This might demonstrate to the scientologist that word clearing is used to quash disagreement.. period. this is short simple and elegant A 25 year member does his own research and find that the information on the net is real! See this new addition to this web site, A write up by another 25 year member of scientology who was told that the information on the net "is all lies" and he had the nerve to actually go out and get original documents.. and he found that the docuemnts on the net and the ones he found from public government files, were in fact the same , though he did comment that his copies were better quality... Read Michael Tilse's new write up HERE - this is the best tool, written in scientology lingo, - if you can just get the Scientologist to READ it.. good luck... Whenever a scientologist says : WHAT IS TRUE FOR YOU IS TRUE FOR YOU" seize the moment and retort with the corollary of Hubbard's key phrase that isolates them from reality ... Then "WHAT IS NOT TRUE FOR YOU IS NOT TRUE FOR YOU? This will short circuit that particular lock on his mind... thank you to whoever told me about this.. Might have been Jeff Jacobean From "The Art of Deception" by Arnie Lerma This is a long routine but seems to work ] "Before one can attack a complete operating system for defining a reality, you must realize that it is an operating system that includes definitions of you and your efforts as being "all lies, paid for by the evil psychiatrists" or just "nutballs" or "suppressive person" - all forms designed to "make less of it", "it" being your efforts to expose the truth, instead of Hubbard's fictional view of reality as rendered by his PROGRAM running in the target's mind. You see if the minds of Scientologists have been expertly programmed, or, as some say, infected with the mind virus called Scientology, it is very difficult to make them let go, as they know their program is right because "auditing works" for them, at least that is an appearance for them. So I do this. I explain how the "Bridge to Total Freedom" [TM] by 'Religious Technology Center', claims to go to a state called OT, or Operating Thetan. I point out how the old gradation charts used to state that at OT level VIII one was "total cause over Matter Energy Space and Time", I then point out to the fellow how *IF* there was just ONE OT... if there was just one person who had a shadow of the super abilities that Scientology makes its adherents dutifully toe the line for, in promise of its realization, then "I WOULD NOT BE HERE". I chant this at them: "No OTs in Scientology, if there were just ONE OT, you would not be listening to my voice right now" They do not like this, as it reminds them that they are all there waiting to achieve a promise, which, like the story about "The Emperor's New Clothes", does not exist, except as part of the stage magic show called Scientology. I explain to the person some of what I have described herein previously, with emphasis on how Dianetics tricks you into mocking up something called the "reactive mind", and how the "E-meter may help to induce a euphoric response to the expectations of the "Auditing Experience" and that "There are NO OTs in Scientology". (Note: OT's is pronounced OH TEAS) And of course the target is rejecting all of this all along. But that's ok, just depending on time, repeat these concepts gently as long as time permits. You are baiting a hook, to pull him out of the illusion. After a while, when you intend to end off the conversation, tell the fellow this: "OK, so you don't feel you are the target of deceptions by Scientology or Hubbard, or in any sort of trance, stage play or illusion, or running any kind of mental program. right? {emphasis on 'right?') He agrees. "So how about this, lets make a little friendly wager, ok?" He agrees. "Here's the deal" [ then I state with emphasis, command style, with 'intention', very directly ]. "The next time you hear the words, 'Pick up the cans please, this is the session' you will remember everything we discussed in this conversation today". Now the fellow has just denied all of your allegations, and agreed to this wager... and you have commanded him, (he is after all running a program) to recall this conversation at a very specific time, a time in which Scientologists are at a heightened level of expectation - as those words: "Pick up the cans, this is the session" commence every auditing action with an E-meter! And what will he have to deal with at the beginning of his next auditing? What fun! Turning the stage play against itself! He will have to tell his auditor ALL ABOUT THIS. And it gets repeated again! And hopefully he notices.. Gee, that guy was right, I *AM* running a program. This is one technique I think might crack the mind armor that Scientologists wear under the guise of "Thinking for yourself". I don't know if it works, but the last two public Scientologists that were assigned to keep me busy during a picket have yet to be seen again! And at the last picket, I was studiously ignored... " (c) Arnaldo Lerma 1999 not-for-profit use encouraged Now then of course there is this one: NO OT's THERE. repeat this chant a few times during a picket... The say THERE ARE NO OT'S in SCIENTOLOGY, IF THERE WAS ONE OT YOU WOULD NOT BE HEARING MY WORDS" The NO OT's THERE It is also simple and makes people think... the purpose is to generate a system error in the hubbardian control programming - the blue screen of death from windows95/8.... This is the instant that the person will suspend belief long enough to hear you....or look at the net web sites. If Scientology starts yelling about de-programming.... use this one from a father who wishes his son would get the hell out of the cult now: "Why would scientology ever object to DEPROGRAMMING unless it' actually is no more than mental programming to being with? Mr. xxxxxxxx I look forward to being able to tell your story someday Response to "It's all lies" I want EVIDENCE well you could ask them for evidence of OT.... but this works better: he US federal 2nd court of appeals wesbite https://www.tourolaw.edu/FTP/SecondCircuit/January01/98-9522.rtf Or try this one of the United States Supreme Court http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/00-1683.htm now, come back here and tell me "It's all lies" be sure you fully understand all the words in the legal definition of malice .... cause this huge case was not lost because of a 'technicality' as OSA is telling it's sheep. Why are we here doing this? This was received this am, I hope it has the same effect upon you as it did upon me. this is why we are here [email header deleted ] Dear Sir, I was just wondering if it is still possible to reach you, if writing to this address. And also ask if I can write to you about $cn some day if I And then I froze... Its been more than 2 years now since I left the $o and I still panic when trying to sent a mail to a "known SP", "cause what if THEY find out"... Will I ever stop being scared??? I don't even dare to use my real name or my own computer. Is it me being paranoid? I really don't know if I should sent the mail like this. I don't even know if I should sent this letter at all, but if your reading this now, then I guess I did... There is a major struggle going on inside of me right now... I feel terrified when I think about what I'm doing right now. If I sent this letter I can never go back there. And I don't know that scares me so much since I have no wish to return to the church. I just decided that I will sent this to you. But I'm still scared... If you receive this, and if you answer this I really hope that I didnīt waste your time, cause to be honest I really don't know if I would dare to answer you. So please forgive if that will be the case. I keep looking at the screen not believing that I'm doing this. Not believing that this has taking me almost an hour to write. I hope you can find some kind of logic in all the mess above. [ signature deleted ] Related Links: The more you know about the prison of lies that Hubbard built, the more effective you will be at springing the trap, no other organization has such a tough hold on it's members, besides Al Quada, and Scientology does far more supressing the truth.... The Tone Scale Scientology Matrix Art of Deception Art of Deception Part 2 Hubbard the master stage hypnotist The E-Meter Pages "How long would I have to run a subliminal current through your body while telling you things that you wanted to hear until you thought that I held the secrets to the universe?" I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak. The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers The internet is the liberty tree of the new millenium Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind http://www.lermanet2.com/grifters.htm - mentioned 4 January 2000 in The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD" Visit Mr. Tilse's home page |
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