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Hypnosis Is
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Don Carlo

Hubbard Denounced by Inventor of the E-Meter

Hypnosis Demonstration and Collective on Hubbard's Use of Covert Hypnosis - Exposed

Dianetics in the 1952 Journal of Hypnosis and Instantaneous Hypnosis" by Harry Arons

scientology's Source of the "E-Meter
Stress Test"
("psycho-galvanic reflex.") and More From 1943 - George Estabrooks

A Comparison of Hypnosis and Auditing from Ex-Member who Became a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist

Hubbard's own statements about Hypnosis from his books and Scientology official publications.

The Rape of the Mind by Joost Meerloo 1957 - LINK

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Charles Manson had a scientology e-meter at Spahn ranch"

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Report from the day Hubbard invoked Religious Cloaking

Persecution of Ex-Members

Why I dont trust Scientologists

What A Scientologist faces who wants to leave The Scientology Matrix

Scientology's Real Secret - the E-meter

Hubbard caught lying on video Secret Lives snippet

Scientology's Private Army of Private Investigators

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Son of Scientology - An interview with Ron Dewolfe

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A site by now ex-member Charlotte Kates

Warrior's Archive
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The Very Strange Death of L Ron Hubbard the King of CONs

Through the Door:
Ex-member Interviews

Movies that are helpfuf for understanding Scientology:
The Truman Show 1998
The Sleuth 1972

Understanding OSA and the Guardians Office:
Cape Fear 1962
The Spanish Prisoner

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A Comparison of Hypnosis and Auditing

From a scientology member who became a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist

Another Look at Hypnosis
by By Lawrence West, USA

From International Viewpoints (IVy) Issue 9 - November 1992

While visiting a Clearing Practitioner friend of mine in San Francisco in 1989 I noticed that he was doing hypnosis on some clients to help them quit smoking. I found myself a bit shocked and amazed, but decided to find out why he was doing this 'off-beat practice'. After all Ron had given us some stern warnings about hypnosis in "Dianetics - The Modern Science of Mental Health". After talking to him for a while about hypnosis, I decided that I really didn't know much about it from practical experience. I had just accepted someone else's ideas and stable datum without finding out for myself. On returning home to Southern California I began to look around for a hypnosis school where I could study the subject first hand with a master of the subject. I wanted to find out for myself.

During this time, the late summer of 1989, I began reading about hypnosis and talking with other Clearing Practitioners and my students about the subject. I found those who had never been in the Church to have an open mind about hypnosis. Those who had been in the Church were like me, suspicious and somewhat afraid of the whole idea. I decided to do an experiment. Every time I met someone new I introduced myself as a hypnotist or hypnotherapist. I found that in almost 100% of the cases, this was received favorably. A typical comment being, "A hypnotist helped my mother get over her fear of snakes" or "I could use that; do you have a card." In almost all cases, the response was favorable or at least neutral. This seemed to be quite a contrast to the 80% or so negative reaction when you say you have something to do with Dianetics or Scientology. In seemed that the hypnotists, at least, had much better PR in the population at large.

Why so? Had I been missing out on something?

About this time a student of mind had put out some brochures in a local clothing store promoting herself as a Clearing Practitioner doing Clearing. She received a phone call from a somewhat nervous, agitated man who asked her in shaky voice, "Does this have anything to do with Dianetics?" After thinking a second and knowing for sure that this was a "churchie," she replied, "No! It is hypnosis." He said, "Thank you, that's all I wanted to know," in an even more frightened and agitated voice. She said, "Wait, don't you want to know more?" The reply, "I'm into Dianetics and I am not interested in hypnosis!" He hung up abruptly and that was all she ever heard on the matter, no visit from the gestapo, no further contact or harassment. My comment to her was, "Now, for sure, I am going to find a good school of hypnosis so that I can have one of those hypnosis certificates on my wall whether I use it or not." The metaphor being, "This is some kind of great 'bug spray' against RTC (RTC, the organisation holding various trademarks and copyrights on Rons work, which has fought rather vicously against anything they regarded as competition. Ed.) creeps, it is like holding a cross up to a vampire." In any case, it will keep distractions off our lines so that we can do our work.

I try it out

By September of 1989 I was enrolled in a 150 hour certification course in Los Angeles at one of the leading hypnosis training academies. I also took a weekly 50 hour course at one of the local night schools. During this period of time, in the fall of 1989, as a part of these courses, I allowed myself to be hypnotised hundreds of times and hypnotised other students in the course hundreds of times. The first thing I found was that I was very good at it right from the start, perhaps as a result of my 20 years of putting people "in session." The second thing I found was that the experience of being hypnotised was quite pleasant, like being 'in session.' I found it to be quite relaxing and at no time did I feel other-determined or unconscious. At all times I was fully aware and self-determined. I even went to hypnosis stage shows where I volunteered to be hypnotised on stage with a group. I could do all the tricks required, yet I remained fully conscious and aware of what was going on. I did some test to be sure that I was not fooling myself. It seemed that I could be in the state or out of it as I so determined. This could be because of my 700 or so hours of Clearing over 20 years. I did notice that those around me seemed to be unconscious of their surroundings. Perhaps, it is true that a Clear cannot be hypnotised; however, a Clear can enter or exit the state of hypnosis at will, and while in the state, can do all the 'tricks' that a hypnotised subject can do.

I finished my training by late November of 1989 and received a certificate as a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist. I even tested my new abilities by attending a fire walk in early December of 1989. I walked across the blazing coals twice and received only one small burn. I immediately ran it out solo and erased the incident and the pain.

Two major techniques

There are two major techniques that most good hypnosis training schools teach. One is the induction of the state of hypnosis along with suggestions for improvement and the other is regression work which is not unlike Book One Dianetics. The regression procedure dates back to before 1950 to the work of Breuer and Freud in the 1890s.

Perhaps this is the 'few bits of Freudian therapy' that L. Ron Hubbard learned from Commander Snake Thompson that he applied to the ex-POWs he worked with at Oak Knoll Naval Hospital after the war. I know also, from talking with A.E. van Vogt that LRH was a skilled and powerful hypnotist. Van Vogt speaks of a time when he saw LRH hypnotize several people after a meeting of The Science Fiction Writers Guild in 1947.


As I began to put all my experience together, I came to some startling conclusions.

These are:

1. Dianetics comes out of Hubbard's research and use of hypnosis.

The countdown, the concept of the 'file clerk,' finger snapping, the canceller, the idea of regression, and the concept that aberration comes from some subconscious mechanism all can be seen in the earlier practice of hypnosis. Remember Ron was a total master of hypnosis and was well read on the subject. My experience is that if you count someone down, the vast majority of people will go into a hypnotic trance whether you want them to or not.

I believe, also, that the breath test, can squeeze and the command 'start of session' as a ritual-like beginning to a session is enough to put a well conditioned subject into a state of hypnosis. And I think most preclears could be classified as well-conditioned subjects. It doesn't matter if you want to or not, it still happens.

I am not saying that this is wrong or bad, it is just an observation I have made after some intensive study of hypnosis. This study has made me realize how absolutely easy it is to put someone into a hypnotic state. In Freud's time it took an hour or so to induce hypnosis. Today a skilled practitioner can induce the same state in less than 30 seconds.

Snap and they are in a hypnotic state. I think it is because we have watched so much television. Television viewing induces a trance and this induction is repeated thousands of times. Now it is very easy to induce a trance in a member of the TV generation. This has some frightening implications when you see the amount of negative garbage coming from television.

When you say, 'Start of Session' you have someone who is "interested in own case and willing to talk to the practitioner," but you also have someone who is, to some degree, in a state of hypnosis, i.e., a hypnotic trance. That is one of the reasons we have the Clearing Practitioner Code: to protect that person while he is in a very suggestible state.

Knowing all this doesn't really change the way we do Clearing, it just means that we now have a deeper understanding of what is going on in session. And I am saying this with the realization that I may be offending some of the more orthodox Hubbardians. I definitely agree that hypnosis is no 'parlor game.' The next question is, "Why did Ron so strongly disavow the practice of hypnosis?" I have a theory about that and that is startling conclusion number two.

2. L. Ron Hubbard saw the need to separate Dianetics from hypnosis.

In the late 40s and earlier 50s, a person practicing hypnosis openly could be arrested for practicing medicine without a license. This was quite common during that period of time. So by saying, "this is not hypnosis and I disavow hypnosis," in so many words, Ron was creating something new and different called Dianetics. This, in a sense, was a marketing ploy to take Dianetics out of the realm of psychotherapy and medicine in order to protect himself and future practitioners from arrest and prosecution (persecution also). Dianetics was, of course, a great breakthrough and Ron discovered a multitude of new methods and practices which greatly advanced the practice of regression hypnosis.

3. When you hypnotize someone by some means, after telling him that you are not using hypnosis, he has no way to resist unwanted suggestions.

Here is what I think is my biggest startling realization on this subject. And I think it is the reason for the formation and perpetuation of cults. In my training with master hypnotist and master teacher of hypnosis, Gil Boyne, a student in the class asked the following question, "What if the subject doesn't like the suggestion and doesn't want to follow it?" Gil answered, "He simply won't follow it." "Why?" "Because he knows he is hypnotized and can simply choose not to." For the class this was a surprising answer from a man who has practiced hypnosis for over 40 years. For me, this answer led to a further realization. What if you tell someone what you are doing is not hypnosis and, yet, engage him in practices that induce a state of hypnosis. My conclusion was: He will enter a state of hypnosis, not know that he has been hypnotized and not be able to resist any suggestion he is given from the person or group that put him in the hypnotic trance.

Now we begin to see why some organizations and television have such a powerful influence over their helpless victims. I am certainly not referring here to any of the Free Zone groups or other independent practitioners that do Clearing or Viewing outside the Church of Scientology.

If someone says, "I am going to hypnotize you." and you agree and go ahead with it you are still left with some critical factor to screen out unwanted or irrational suggestions.

In many organization which are referred to as cults (See IVy Nr, 1 page 25, with material from The Cult Awareness Network, and the book "Combatting Cult Mind Control", by Steven Hassan, Park Stree Press 1988 ISBN 0-89281-243-5. Ed IVy,) the participants are told over and over in many different ways that what they are doing has nothing to do with hypnosis. At the same time drills, meditations, exercises and sessions are done which put them into a very profound, deep, waking, eyes open, hypnotic trance. If they are also overworked, kept awake for long hours or denied food, this greatly enhances the trance. Now these people have no critical factor left to resist suggestions and will accept whatever they are told. They become willing members of organizations that purport to be the 'only source of the only solution,' in the words of the late Jack Horner.

These are people who have been deeply hypnotized yet do not know that they have been. They manifest all the behaviors of the cult members which have been presented in other articles by many authors over the last 10 to 15 years. I think it is pretty obvious what I am talk about. In the many hypnosis organizations I have studied with and visited over the past 4 years which practice hypnosis and say that is what they do, I have never seen this 'cult-like' behavior. I have only seen some very self-determined people who think for themselves, the type of people the average cult member hates and fears. These people understand the mechanics of hypnosis and are, therefore, not susceptible to cult brainwashing, which these hypnosis organizations are not into in the first place. It seems knowledge is the best defense against hidden hypnotic influence. It could be that people outside the Church of Scientology in the independent field and Free Zone were not susceptible to this mechanism and this is what caused them to leave or be expelled from the Church.

I think that most cults and cult leaders do not realize what they are doing. I think that they are victims of their own deception. They actually fear those who think for themselves. For sure, they do try, overtly or covertly, to push out those people who resist or don't go along with this covert hypnotic influence. After all, 'one bad apple' might spoil the whole barrel. Welcome to the bad apple club! I look forward to comments and criticisms of what I have written here. This is, after all, just my viewpoint and I would be interested in what others have to say.

To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them.
Hamlet (III.i.64-68)

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