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"One in every five of the human race are highly suggestible, at least half are suggestible to a very considerable degree. But here mere figures do not tell the story. That one-fifth has a power far beyond its numbers, for this type of man, acting under direct suggestion, is no mere average person. He is a fanatic in the highest -- or lowest -- sense of the word. George Estabrooks 1943
The Biggest Secret of Hypnosis of ALL is not really hypnosis
The formula is to state a shocking, outrageous claim, like "Holocaust denier" followed by the lies you wish the person to believe to be true. A lurid emotionally intense thought stopping claim, - vivid language that invokes imagery, like 'worm'. After thinking stops one is more easily influenced by direct suggestions, everything they tell their members just after the shocking accusation will be held as 'true' for them, without their thinking consent, directly embedded into the subconscious as a fact. This is not hypnosis as such but is more the implanting of a phobia, the generation of a complex in the mind of the target and in the minds of those watching the exchange. This is a secret technique of lawyers to influence juries, it is also a military technique to cause the person to believe as true whatever is stated just after the lurid and shocking opening statement. Used in what is known as the stage attack method, the < a href="http://www.hypnotism.org/">parental authority technique, and used with "prestige suggestion" It is similar in tone to how a child is treated who has done something bad, and tends to regress an adult and the audience watching towards intensely prior suggestible infantile emotional states, drawing it's power from those early incidents. It creates a subconscious phobia to avoid anything to do with whatever reminds them of the unpleasant expereince... This is the method used that has driven most of the enthusiasts off the net, as 'it just got too ugly to stay here'....
After this emotionally laden experience, those listening, reading or watching will have an implanted phobia about the target and about the subject and a subconscious fear of expereincing such vengence based on what was suggested having being uncritically accepted by a mind whose thought has effectively been stopped!
Thank you Shawn Lonsdale!
Ask Emma, Deanna Holmes, Tikk, Pooks, Kieth Spurgeon, Diane Richardson and Rob Clark and some of the rest who hung out on that old IRC Channel on undernet, and on alt.religion.scientology.
This is a method (he uses several covered elsewhere and in future writings) how Hubbard caused readers of his books to accept, uncritcally the certainty that they had a reactive mind.... While using prestige to aid suggestion "I am a atomic physicist said Hubbard" he discussed gory pre frontal lobotomies, abortions and horrible electro-shock therapy in a lurid, emotionally intense manner, which STOP thinking, then tells you that you have a reactive mind, then he calls it THE BANK, and convinces you that you must get rid of it. This makes getting your money easy - because the subconscious is literal. He says you will reach a state called CLEAR, which if you consider what it does to your mind as a COMMAND - the word CLEAR is what helps make your freinds, family, wife, hopes , dreams, and bank account dissapear, leaving only your "very good freind" L RON HUBBARD or in Jessie's case, "my good freind" Patricia Greenway as the operator of your trance for THE PROFIT in both cases.
Effective upon people who have had it used repeatedly upon them in the past, like ex-scientologists, as the method creates a well worn and convenient way of thinking by repettion and conditioning, which requires extreme discipline to stop using, mostly because it is so easy. It is the lazy mind's favorite method to debate. And is what a few of us were discussing privately in hopes of finding remedy.
This is also the method used to get the the American public to believe a couple of guys with box cutters brought down three steel buildings in Manhattan and hit a room in the pentagon behind a reinforced concrete wall where analysts and accountants and program directors were looking for a missing 1.6 trillion dollars in the pentagon budget announced in the papers the day before. PS: This idea was just one of the 'kooky' ideas resulting in my getting banned from ESMB.
Three examples of intense emotional depopularization and examples of those suggestions taken as truth
ONE: ESMB March1st 2014 So some of my freinds and I were chatting about what to do about demonization, the use of Ad-hominem, people calling us names, when they could not deal with the data itself, and knowing that HBO special was coming thought it might be better if we tried to pop this boil rather than have it festering during HBO special and after...So we discussed it privately... Emma the Admin banned me saying that it was "3rd Party" which is a $cientology term, and then claimed I was a "Holocaust denier" < which is a lie. I was guilty of pointing out the fact that Israel was being investigated for War crimes in Gaza, and had been found guilty by an unofficial Tribunal in Mayasia which might have something to so with a total of 3 Malaysian Airlines being shot down or whatever., and pointed out the sinking of the USS Liberty in 1967, a ruse by Israel to try to get the US into the 67 war after blaming their attack on Egypt and/or to cover up evidence of genocide of thousands of captured Egyptian soldiers in a camp within electronic listening range. Anyway.. Emma is now using the "Arnie is a Holocaust Denier" line, a complete lie, as I have a close personal friend whose parents I know died at Auschwitz. The person who gave me this award:
This is the same line OSA used in 1995. I am guilty of reading a great deal and not being intimidated into silence. I have had to live by "I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake" since using it as a sig line in 1994. So to summarize:
"Osa will always try to turn a scratch into a broken arm" Frank Oliver
If "a handful of my freinds", trying to privately, and without causing disruptions, to get the selective tolerance of ad-hominem used by a handful of noisy nicks on a chat board for ex-scientologists get addressed by the moderators with plenty of time for any firefights to settedown, BEFORE the biggest media HIT on $cientology in 20 years", could have been spun up into whatever was presented to Emma the administrator to force my ban, imagine what you would have been told if I had to recant some false testimony in a high profile case, damaging that case, because I could not risk conviction for a felony criminal conviction for PERJURY, as conviction would have prevented my employment as an investment banker, because I HAD to go back to work, because the last of my millions thrown AT the $cientology problem had been swindled away by pirates in Clearwater? Just imagine what THAT would have been spun up into. Sadly we don't have to imagine... You can read about that The Betrayal of Mr Robert Minton.
TWO: Mr. Jessie Prince spouting lies,
What actually happenned was, as described in the LINK above, which was this: Bob called me up on the telephone from Clearwater in a panic asking me to forward his offer to Wollershiem, I told him it wouldn't fly, so why make the offer? but he was desperate, so I told Mr Minton That I'd call Mr. Wollershiem a director on the board of FACTNet.org as I was, also, and pass it along, which I did, Lawrence will confirm this. And then I called Bob and said it did not fly. There were settlement negotiations with Bob and Mike Rinder when he was in OSA but I was not there, Iaw as in Washington DC, 900 miles away. And Patrick was not there HE lived near me in neighboring Falls Church VA, and may have even been in England at the time. He stopped being involved with the LMT months before Mr Minton called me and told me he had to recant.
Here is what SOMEONE (guess who?) must have told Jessie cause he was not there, now Jessie spouts it as if he was there - ask him who told him this whopper:
Jessie: "Bob and Stacy had a new team put together now. When Stacy and Bob went into negotiations with Scientology, they also brought Patrick Jost and Arnie Lerma with them. "
Arnie: Sorry, NO ONE, brings a non-party to litigation with them to settlement talks. That just does not happen, perhaps in imagination, or as a lie to cover up something else, but not in the real world.
Jessie: "The reason or excuse for this new agreement to work with Scientology between these unlikely parties I suspect had something to do with saving the cash cow, Bob Minton. Bob Minton had continually given Stacy Brooks and Arnie Lerma large sums of money so they each had a vested interest as well."
Arnie: I hadn't gotten any money from Bob for several years at that point, so it is a LIE. The last was in 1998, I believe.
In fact, I wanted to be sure I had my facts right and found it difficult to believe that Jessie was in on the scam with Ms Greenway to fleece Mr Minton, so in 2010 I lent Jessie 1300, on a handshake, between two gentlemen, the way Mr Minton would do business...and 4 years later Jessie refused to even aknowledge it since then, and only recently, said in a public chat on FB that "It was my turn"... (To be fleeced) which implied that he knowingly was involved fleecing Bob Minton, or at least demonstrated that he was such a quality of man, and confirmed my worst suspicions, and so it was $1300 that it cost me to to become certain enough to post that Betrayal of Robert Minton story, because I wanted to be damn sure, cause Jessie claims to know some damaging material about Hubbard... and I did not want to discredit that, so I HAD to be sure. For $1300 I was now damn sure.
and on his blog he also said, feigning outrage
Jesse: "To add insult to injury, somehow Arnie Lerma has insisted on different news forums that Patricia Greenway is and �OSA� plant! I mean, wasn�t it Arnie Lerma that went into settlement negotiations of legal cases on behalf of Scientology? Arnie was also fully aware of my situation and he also tried to get me to cooperate with Scientology to �help Bob�. I told him at the time where he could get off. We have since talked and he still tried to convince me that Bob and Stacy had did the right thing. I could only tolerate his betrayal and ignorance for so long. We�ve had some problems since."
Arnie: Re trying to get him to 'cooperate with scientology" perhaps Jessie can refresh my memory with a few more suggestions from Ms Greenway, because I would recall this, because it did not happen, unless I tried to get him to tell the truth in the McPherson case.
Yeah we had problems, he has been lied TO, and has implied that I cooperated with OSA, which cost me at least ONE very close freind, Nancy Many, who wouldn't speak to me after he told her this LIE. And he had the motive that I am accused of. They always accuse others of their own crimes.
Here again the same pattern as above:
Emma and her pal pooks, Tikk, Ron Clark and Deanna Holmes all listened to Greenway's words as the gospel, according to Judas Iscariot as it turns out.
THREE: The Demonization of Robert Minton
Here, Mr Robert Minton is accused of selling out to OSA, Scientology's secret service, in the Lisa McPherson case. What happenned to Bob is described HERE The source of the antagonizm traces to same source
If this successully gets this information into some very hard heads, that is a good thing, and I understand that it the very hardness of those heads that has enabled many including many to keep on keeping on before I had benefit of this knowledge.
As the fallacy of ad-hominem, was not being addressed by moderators on ESMB, some of us began trying to entice those same nicks into MORE ad-hominem.. hoping it might be finally noticed so that it might be addressed properly, before the HBO special.
Compare what we were actually doing with what Emma must have been told and by whom. Subject them to at least a bit more scrutiny than you subjected the allegations against me and my 'kooky freinds' whose main guilt is that the understand certain difficult aspects of though control as described by Dr Robert Oppenhiemer LINK.
FOUR: CONSPIRACY FACT - View this slideshow and article from the Edward Snowden NSA documents:
"How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations By Glenn Greenwald" LINK
"Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person's mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the "golden mean" between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. " Page 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski
The method used in above examples, as well as by Hubbard in his books is to make an emotionally laden claim in a lurid manner.. the shock and awe and outrage temporarily stopping analytical thought, creates a state of enhanced suggestibility where lies go directly into the subconscious as a hypnotic suggestion. Suggestions accepted into the subconscious in this manner are always believed to be TRUE.
Hubbard used lurid stories of electro-shock therapy, abortion and pre-frontal lobotomy.. followed by the supposed 'facts' that you and I have a reactive mind and that only Hubbard's inventions can get rid of it.
This is HOW he got us to believe in the reactive mind. He also used repetition, which is simulated in social settings not just by mere saying it again and again different ways, which Hubbard also did in his books, but by contriving multiple sources all seeming to agree upon the same false "FACTS".
This subject requires considerable thoughtfulness on the part of those upon whom it has been used... and some seem irrevocably damaged by exposure to it in $cientology
Now imagine how much a person might be demonized who figured this out, by those who profited from those lies (suggestions)?
The human mind becomes conditioned by repetitive use of this technique in $cientology. This is analogous to having a path in the forest of ideas that one follows when considering something... one tends to follow the well worn path one has followed before, it is mentally AND subconsciously, the obvious well worn path to follow. It requires little effort having been lubricated by repetitions of internal thought, and takes considerable internal discipline to deviate from, to engage in logical thought. This biggest reason for this is that Hubbard used ad-hominem followed by suggestions, so much, it was his favorite, and most used method used to isolate us from sources of information that might wake us from his trance.
And one of the same methods used to trick readers into believing they had a reactive mind, was the technique used on:
and on Mr. Thomas Padgett
Ms. Paulette Cooper, Ms. Tory Christman (hounded off Why We Protest)
and on Ms Stacy Brooks
Tom Klemesrud, (ran first critical BBS before the "net") and of course Mr.Bob Minton
it ended up contributing to Shawn's death
and the stress that wore out Bob Minton's good heart
and the stress on me that should have killed me already standing up for every one of these people, especially Mr Minton
Lenin � 'The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
Seized in the 1977 FBI Raid on $cientology
See: #8 OPERATIONS OFFICER
"Getting an enemy to attack another enemy" LINK
And rather than wait till I'm done explaining everything..in my book, which is getting way too long, and taking too long to explain everything that occurred, I thought I'd throw this up there to help out those capable of comprehending it, to try to break the induced cycle of abuse
IF I WERE OSA>
I have wondered out loud saying that I thought ESMB might be 25% osa actors... stationed at various places on the 8 steps steps out of scientology See http://www.lermanet.com/cos/8steps.html - normal people don't stay stuck for decades on one of those steps out, and even if some did why would they all be on ESMB, just like they were on ARS Usenet newsgroup a decade before ESMB existed LINK === I would also use THESE techniques described by an old freind in Washington DC LINK
from prior link: "Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party."
Nota Bene: And the TRUTH of the matter does not lie 'somewhere' in the middle..
Some excerpts from Political Ponerology: "Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person's mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the "golden mean" between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. " Page 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski
"In their paper, "Construct Validity of Psychopathy in a Community Sample... Salekin, Trobst, and Krioukova write "Psychopathy as originally conceived by Cleckley (1941) is not limited to engagement in illegal activities, but rather encompasses such personality characteristics as manipulativeness, insincerity, egocentricity , and lack of guilt - characteristics clearly present in criminals but also in spouses, parents, bosses, attorneys and politicians, and CEOs, to name but a few. (bursten. 1973; Stewart, 1991)...As such. psychopathy may be characterized...as involving a tendency towards dominance and coldness. Wiggens (1995) in summarizing numerous previous findings..indicates such persons are prone to anger and irritation and are willing to exploit others. They are arrogant, manipulative, cynical, exhibitionistic, sensation-seeking, Machiavellian, vindictive and out for their own gain. With respect to their patterns of social exchange (Foa & Foa, 1974), they attribute love and status to themselves, seeing themselves as highly worthy and important, but prescribe neither love nor status to others, seeing them as unworthy and insignificant. " Page 89, Political Ponerology, footnote
"Defamatory suggestions are used particularly often by individuals who are not entirely normal, whose behavior tends to be a projection onto other people of one's own self-critical associations. A normal person strikes a sociopath as a naive, smart-alecky believer in barely comprehensible theories; calling him "crazy" is not that far away" page 180
�Political tags � such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth � are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." Robert A. Heinlein
The real problem is we are ruled by a ponerologic system: see http://ponerology.com/psychopaths_1.html
I hope you find these materials as mentally liberating as they are disturbing. If you found benefit from these materials on this page please pass on the link to others,
Thank you for reading,
"One in every five of the human race are highly suggestible, at least half are suggestible to a very considerable degree. But here mere figures do not tell the story. That one-fifth has a power far beyond its numbers, for this type of man, acting under direct suggestion, is no mere average person. He is a fanatic in the highest -- or lowest -- sense of the word.
The writer several years ago had a very unpleasant expereince which illustrates the point. He wished to show the poiwer of the posthypnotic suggestion so he suggested to Smith that, on awakening he would go over and insist oin sitting in Brown's chair. Smith and Brown were relative strangers, When he was awakened, Smith paused for a moment, the got up and walked over to Brown.
"Mind if I sit in your chair?"
"Yes, I like the chair myself."
Without a word Smith reached down, took Brown by the shoulder and literally hurled him across the room. Then he sat down, mutterring savagely that if Brown so much as opened his mouth he'd send him through the window as well. And he meant that. A few such experiences teach the operator to take it easy. On another occassion the writer suggested to a subject in hypnotism, than an individual that he particularly disliked was standing in front of the door. Without an instant's hestitation the subject strode up to the door and drove his first through the panel. The individual who is highly suggestible, whether from hypnotism or strong emotion, reacts with a passionate fury which leaves other mere mortals staring in open-eyed wonder. But it is terribly real, as Europe can testify today. (1943)
There is still another line of approach which shows us the very close relationship between the suggestibility of hypnotism and that arising from the emotions. Basic to psychoanalysis, as out-lined by Freud, is the so called complex, Freud discovered that many of our childhood experiences are are forgotten in a curious sort of way. The forgetting is not passive but active; they do not just fade away into oblivion, they are literally thrown out of consciousness, they are "repressed" into the unconscious.
Such experiences are always unpleasant in nature and are forced out of consciousness in accord with the pleasure principle we have already stressed. Not only will the body not undergo pain willingly , unless for a future pleasure, but the mind always turns away from painful thoughts. The reader can easilt think of exceptions, but we would again warn that many apparant exceptions are not real. A person may brood over bad treatment, which is unpleasnt, but this in turn may bring up the feeling of self-pity which is not very pleasant. Or he may plan revenge, thinking of various ways he will; even up the score. This also may be pleasant.
Actually the pleasure principle does not work in nearly the clear cut form in the mind as in the body.. To a great degree we lose the power of repression after the age of five, although under great stress, as in war, it may still act very effectively. But it does work in childhood and Freud discovered that many of the neuroses have their origin in these repressions. They are "down" but not "out". Why they are not outis beside out discussion here, but once they become installed the unconscious can cause a lot of trouble.
For example a child is badly frightened by a cat. Later in life he develops a fear, a phobia of cats. Yes strange to say the original expereince in which he was frightened has been completely forgotten. Note the close resemblance to post hypnotic suggestion. All we need is the hypnotist rather than the cat, to give the suggestion and the paralell would be complete. The complexes act in avery curious fashion. We can tell what causes them but we cannot predict results."
Page 136 Page 136 Using Hypnotism, George Estabrooks
"The only way to prevent mental manipulation is to become familiar with the techniques being used upon you" George Estabrooks 1943
I hope this helps...
Thanks for reading
PS: One last message for ESMB: