On Thu, 06 Nov 1997 06:56:57 GMT, email@example.com (Mike de Wolfe) wrote: >Arnie Lerma wrote: > >>Given the power scientology would exterminate its enemies >>clearing the planet means ONE thing >>extermination of 2.5 % of the population >>forthe sake of mankind > >Given the way SP identification has been occasionally practiciced in >the Orgs, it would probably be a lot larger than 2.5 percent. > >Mike de Wolf >
[Gerry Armstrong, Ex Sea Org member, multiple lawsuit-for-silence survivor and one time Historian for L Ron Hubbard - whose only crime was to have the nerve to demand that they stop lying about hubbard said:]
Very good point. During the height of the List One R/S madness, [ this was an internal organization campaign to cull through staff auditing folders to identitfy all those who ever reacted with a certain reaction on the cults lie detector - called an emeter with a certain characteristic response called a Rock Slam, where the meter needle bangs wildly about... indicating in "Hubbard Tech" - evil intent.. - evil being defined as opposing Scientology]
over 20 % of the staff in Clearwater and La Quinta/Gilman Hotsprings were RPFed. [RPF is the Hubbardian Gulag, or Concentration camp ]
When this fact became obvious, the reason "produced" was that these locations were closest to "source" and closest to mankind's only hope and therefore attracted such a concentration of SPs. The same reason is used to explain why so many people who were in the inner core of the cult have left and been declared.
[declared refers to being labeled a Suppressive person, it is a published official directive ]
The cult leaders' party line to the remaining people is that those who left were SPs from the start. Being SPs, they were attracted to Hubbard and his organization, the most theta and pro-survival entities in the universe, in order to destroy them.
[SP = Suppressive person, it is used so often it has an abbreviation]
The Scientological mind is capable of amazing OT [OT - refers to the superhuman state achieved by the upper levels of $cientology]feats of justification and delusion, and is not beyond the extermination of 2.5% of the population. Or 20% or more if told to do so. The same Scientological mind is capable of amazingly justified feats of cruelty and perfidy. That's why the organization is dangerous and why its dangers are recognized by certain governments. That is also what makes its vanquishing a worthy goal. At a minimum, 150,000,000 lives depend on what you do here and now with Scientology. (Ref. HCOPL "Keeping the Cult Working.") Gerry Jack offed: [Jack is a Scientologist...] >I suppose I should no longer be surprised at some of the crazies that >post here, and yet this post leaves me shaking my head in disbelief. >150 million people will be exterminated if Scn is not destroyed. >It takes an extremely ugly mind to draw such a conclusion. A >conclusion that does not exist in "Keeping Scientology Working". >Even here, on ars, I doubt that you could convince many people that >Scientology is planning genocide on a scale unheard of in human >history. You have taken the phrase "scare tactic" to new heights. Before >you try to save 150 million lives from being exterminated at the hands of >Scientologists, you may want to work on yourself a bit.
An anonymous poster replied: [an accurate opinion in my expert opinion ]
We don't share your confidence. We do know these things for a fact, and if you want to argue about them I'll put up $1000 wager in an Escrow account for an impartial deliberator to decide whether they are true or not if you'll do the same. 1) LRH tech and policy is to be followed exactly. All incorrect technology and application are to be ruthlessly stamped out. 2) The only way to handle people below 2.0 on the tone scale is to quietly dispose of them. Science of Survival. No LRH tech is canceled so that solution stands as scripture forever. Correct? So you can say, "That isn't done in the Church nowadays", but I say, yes, but if Scientology were the law, that clause COULD and WOULD be used to justify genocide. 3) LRH ordered the entire Sea Org to kill seven people whom he accused of stealing the advanced course materials. He used the phrase "Run R2-45", which means to exteriorize them with a 45 caliber bullet in the head. This is analogous to the mob saying, "bump them off", or "send him our best regards". 4) Lisa McPherson was killed by people who were just following LRH tech and policy on dealing with a situation. They were sure they were just trying to help. To do the right thing. All the above point to inescapable fact that Scientologists will exactly follow LRH's proscribed tech for dealing with a situation even if it means killing other people. Sure, they think they are helping the other person. But isn't that the creepiest part of this whole thing? A Scientologist would blow your head off, and consider that he'd done you a favor by exteriorizing you with R2-45. "See you next time around" as he blows the smoke from the barrel. You guys think I'm joking don't you? Any of the ex-Sea Org, or GO will concur with me on this, won't you? So, you can live in your little dream world of how nice Scientology is because you just haven't been exposed to the hard core yet. I'll guarantee you that, if they thought they could get away with it, the Sea Org would be use ANY means to "clear the planet". In fact, LRH even says that. The quote is very close to this, "There is probably nothing I wouldn't do to ensure the survival of Scientology". So, whatever gory scenario I want to make up, LRH would have have done it to ensure Scientology's survival. He would have vaporized an entire continent. Murdered 100 million people one by one, personally, with an ice pick himself. He said it, don't point the finger at me. All the above is of course modified by how seriously the Scientologist takes his role. For Sea Org, I'd estimate 90% fit the bill. [ Comment by Lerma - when I was *in* prior to 1977, this 90% estimate would be
too high, perhaps, I'd estimate it to be 40% at that time]
In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "Jack"
>gerry armstrong wrote in message
>>On Thu, 06 Nov 1997 06:56:57 GMT, email@example.com (Mike de Wolfe)
>Even here, on ars, I doubt that you could convince many people that
>Scientology is planning genocide on a scale unheard of in human
>You have taken the phrase "scare tactic" to new heights. Before you
>try to save 150 million lives from being exterminated at the hands of
>Scientologists, you may want to work on yourself a bit.
"Clearing the planet" requires that 20% of the population be
"abruptly deleted from society" and that 2.5% are "disposed of quietly
and without sorrow"
I dunno where you get your 150 million number, but if Scn took over
the US they'd be obligated to kill off 6.5 million people. To do
otherwise would be out tech.
www.best.com/~dkeith/dispose.htm Fair use quote from Hubbard's book Science of survival from the link above provided here [expect the next edition to have this section orweilianly edited... as they are
editing most exceptionally obnoxious comments by Hubbard out of new reprints.. [ I used to
print the books at ASHO Publications in the 70's ]
"The reasonable man quite ordinarily overlooks the fact that people from 2.0 down
have no traffic with reason and cannot be reasoned with as one would reason with a 3.0.
There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the tone scale,
neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their
justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the tone scale by
un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes.
The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow. Adders are safe bedmates compared to people on the lower bands of the tone scale. Not all the beauty nor the handsomeness nor artificial social value nor property can atone for the vicious damage such people do to sane men and women. The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered.
It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line--a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred--or simply quarantining them from the society. A venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country.
-- L. Ron Hubbard, Science of Survival, Book I, Chapter 27 (Column Y: Method Used By Subject To Handle Others), page 157
(Line breaks added. In the book, this is one whole paragraph)
It should be clarified that the "three valid processes" mentioned are reeducation, isolation, and relocation. Additionally, the people who should be "disposed of quietly and without sorrow" number 2.5% of the population, or 6.5 million Americans.
[ For this reason alone, Germany's government should be applauded for having the courage to consider Scientology a threat to democracy - German citizens have mental antibodies to anything fascist - that is one reason why they are having such a reaction to the $cientology the Virus of the Mind.
the other reason is that the media and press in Germany have far more freedom and protection than in America. The United States Constitutional gaurantee of Freedom for the press - has been effectively subverted by Scientology techniques to abuse and befuddle the US Judicial System - The Self evident truth of this claim is the 1.7 million the cult spent in RTC vs Lerma [me] in order to get a $2500 fine.... and the 1 million in litigation defense costs associated with RTC vs Lerma on my side - paid to attorneys for defendig the posting of an unsealed PUBLIC COURT RECORD to the internet in order to alert the public to a dire threat to their safety AND.... the 7.2 million that Time Magazine spent defending thier 1991 cover story "the Thriving cult of Power and Greed"... which was DISMISSED - the Death-by-litgation of CAN, - the list goes on and on...
Scientology keeps on going like an energizer bunny of evil...
All the Germans have done is try to take its batteries out.
They must not be blamed, their courage and unfortunate past experience, gives them the
forsight to take this action. They should be applauded and emulated.
I rest my case.
Scientology [ and all its front groups] are a threat to the security, freedom, happiness and survival of mankind .
Arnie [Arnaldo] P. Lerma