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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Mistmagoo55) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Date: 17 Sep 2000 05:56:48 GMT Subject: Watching Scientology Be Criminal Infront of My Eyes!!!!!!!
Ok, Ok............I know ....most of you all KNOW Scientology is criminal.
Ok, Ok............ich weiss....die meisten von euch wissen, dass Scientology kriminell ist.
But for someone just coming from inside the Church...I have to say these last 2 months have been a TOTAL eye opener.
Aber für jemand, der gerade aus dem Innern der Kirche kommt...ich muss sagen, diese letzten 2 Monate öffneten mir die Augen völlig.
Tonight...to be walking down the street with the plan to do a peaceful picket in front of the Fort Harrison, to look away and look back only to see a Sea Org member DIVE on Bob Minton....and bash him with his camera, Bob's sign goes to him and then then he flips Bob onto the ground! Bob is wrapped around him....then BAM! He is up, grabs his sign and is off to picket. WHAT IS THIS:????
Heute Abend...auf der Strasse gehend mit der Absicht, vor dem Fort Harrison eine friedliche Demonstration durchzuführen, um uns umzusehen und nur um zu sehen, wie sich ein Sea Org Mitglied auf Bob Minton wirft...und ihn mit seiner Kamera schlägt, das Demonstrationsschild von Bob ergreift und dann Bob auf den Boden drückt! Bob wird von ihm richtiggehend zugedeckt...dann BAM! Er steht, ergreift sein Schild und ist weg von der Demonstration. Was bedeutet das?
The head of OSA, Ben Shaw and others stand by as this happens. Now you have to know these guys are TOTALLY trained in stopping things like this..........and they did nothing. Randy, me and Anita ran across the street and literally stopped the fight.;
Der Chef von OSA, Ben Shaw und andere stehen daneben als dies passierte. Ihr müsst nun wissen, dass diese Kerle total auf das Abstellen von solchen Dingen trainiert sind...und sie unternahmen nichts. Randy, Anita und ich rannten über die Strasse und stoppten wörtlich den Kampf.
Scientology..................HA! P A T H E T I C !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scientology..................HA! P A T H E T I S C H !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of my old friends drove up, rolled down his window and said to me "I can't believe you are doing this!"
Einer meiner alten Freunde fuhr vor, liess das Fenster hinunter und sagte zu mir: "Ich kann es nicht glauben, dass du dies tust!"
I looked at him and said "I cannot believe you are NOT! "
Ich sah ihm in die Augen und sagte: "Ich kann nicht glauben, dass du es nicht tust!"
Too bad, really too bad.
Bedauerlich, wirklich bedauerlich.
With all the SO memebers out with their cameras on us, and the police crowded around the front door....all I could do was look into Mark Bunkers camera... and Say:
Mit all den SO Mitgliedern hier draussen, ihre Kameras auf uns gerichtet und der um den Haupteingang massierten Polizei...alles was ich tun konnte, war in Mark Bunkers Kamera zu schauen...und zu sagen:
And they call this a CHURCH!~
Und das nennen sie eine KIRCHE!
Tory Bezazian - 30 year Scientologist . . now OUT, and happy I am.
Tory Bezazian - 30 Jahre Scientologin...jetzt DRAUSSEN, und ich bin deshalb glücklich.
What an embarrassment!
Was für eine Verlegenheit!
Magoo / dancin in the rain, after the picket!
Comment: It has not been conclusively determined that Scientology is solely a criminal organization, merely that it pursues anti-social goals under the guise of religious enlightenment. In the heat of battle, however, the luxury of that distinction is not always possible.
"Somebody some day will say 'this is illegal'. By then be sure the [Scientology] orgs say what is legal or not."
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966
at 17 Sep 2000 13:56:52 GMT, Tory wrote:
As far as the cops...it was pathetic. They came and talked to the C of S for about an hour while we demonstrated. They interviewed Randy and Anitta and were suppposed to interview Jeff and I, but instead just drove off.
They then went over ot LMT to talk to Bob and Stacy, and were there all of about 10-15 mintues.
That was it. The tapes are off the the attorney general's office end of story.
Scientology's response to Tory (in 2 parts)
Comment: Scientology's stated goal is to rid the world of war, criminality and insanity. To do that, Scientology has replaced guns with e-meters, "criminal" has been redefined to mean "dissident," and insanity has been turned into a matter of public opinion.